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	<title>Comments on: Why Buying a Mac for (Rails) Developers is a Good Idea</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Про линуксы. Необычный максвитч &#8230; с линуксов :) &#124; Nexus Notes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Про линуксы. Необычный максвитч &#8230; с линуксов :) &#124; Nexus Notes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] сделал Pidgin похожим на iChat. В конце концов прочел статью buy those fucking mac.А потом, думаю, чего это я?И купил Macbook. Share this [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] сделал Pidgin похожим на iChat. В конце концов прочел статью buy those fucking mac.А потом, думаю, чего это я?И купил Macbook. Share this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kesha Vandiford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kesha Vandiford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;educate me.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>educate me.</p>
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		<title>By: the name is not important</title>
		<link>http://www.rubyrailways.com/why-buying-a-mac-for-rails-developers-is-a-good-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-138914</link>
		<dc:creator>the name is not important</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;there are no clever people without ignorant ones
and using a mac is a clear proof of ignorance and lack of competence, in addition to be a pathetic middle-class choice&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are no clever people without ignorant ones<br />
and using a mac is a clear proof of ignorance and lack of competence, in addition to be a pathetic middle-class choice</p>
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		<title>By: WTF</title>
		<link>http://www.rubyrailways.com/why-buying-a-mac-for-rails-developers-is-a-good-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-137176</link>
		<dc:creator>WTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ubuntu-&#62;Mac converts? Let me guess: gedit, gnome... of course you switched to a mac! Sheese. Web development is one of those things where a TILING WINDOW MANAGER is absolutely perfect. It's all text! You design the interface, write code, test code, and it's all pure fucking text. Your software runs in a browser window so you don't need the full "well-integrated" desktop environment. It actually just gets in the way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A Mac is excellent for authoring graphics considering you use Photoshop so a Mac. Inkscape and Gimp are a total pain in the ass with tiling window managers too. But give me a fucking break. There is no way the mac desktop can beat a good tiling window manager like XMonad or Awesome combined with Vim/Emacs, and urxvt-unicode. I switch to a test workspace and start tests, switch to the browser and Ctrl-R, and flip back to Emacs before you've moved your fucking hand to the fucking mouse.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Most of the tools cited in this article have nothing to do with RoR. Where's your git gui for example? Oh yea, it's all text. WTF does MarsEdit have to do with Ror? Gimme a break!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ubuntu-&gt;Mac converts? Let me guess: gedit, gnome&#8230; of course you switched to a mac! Sheese. Web development is one of those things where a TILING WINDOW MANAGER is absolutely perfect. It&#8217;s all text! You design the interface, write code, test code, and it&#8217;s all pure fucking text. Your software runs in a browser window so you don&#8217;t need the full &#8220;well-integrated&#8221; desktop environment. It actually just gets in the way.</p>
<p>A Mac is excellent for authoring graphics considering you use Photoshop so a Mac. Inkscape and Gimp are a total pain in the ass with tiling window managers too. But give me a fucking break. There is no way the mac desktop can beat a good tiling window manager like XMonad or Awesome combined with Vim/Emacs, and urxvt-unicode. I switch to a test workspace and start tests, switch to the browser and Ctrl-R, and flip back to Emacs before you&#8217;ve moved your fucking hand to the fucking mouse.</p>
<p>Most of the tools cited in this article have nothing to do with RoR. Where&#8217;s your git gui for example? Oh yea, it&#8217;s all text. WTF does MarsEdit have to do with Ror? Gimme a break!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy L.</title>
		<link>http://www.rubyrailways.com/why-buying-a-mac-for-rails-developers-is-a-good-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-134729</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok, I'm the guy from the 3 previous posts... Funnily enough, I've switched to a MacBook Pro about one week ago, after one more issue with Ubuntu.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'm soooo happy I've switched!  To the Linux users reading this -- Mac OS X is a whole new world, especially in terms of how smoothly things work, how well-integrated Cocoa apps are, and the little details that, compounded, make things much easier.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I've been proven wrong.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I really echo Peter Cooper's words: just buy a fucking mac.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And this comes from a guy using Ubuntu every day since 2006.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#8217;m the guy from the 3 previous posts&#8230; Funnily enough, I&#8217;ve switched to a MacBook Pro about one week ago, after one more issue with Ubuntu.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m soooo happy I&#8217;ve switched!  To the Linux users reading this &#8212; Mac OS X is a whole new world, especially in terms of how smoothly things work, how well-integrated Cocoa apps are, and the little details that, compounded, make things much easier.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been proven wrong.</p>
<p>I really echo Peter Cooper&#8217;s words: just buy a fucking mac.</p>
<p>And this comes from a guy using Ubuntu every day since 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy L.</title>
		<link>http://www.rubyrailways.com/why-buying-a-mac-for-rails-developers-is-a-good-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-103485</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh well... After reading these comments, and feeling some pity.. err, compassion ;) -- Allow me to offer this as a Christmas gift... :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My recommended applications for those developers wishing to use Ubuntu (or some other Linux distribution):
FTP Client: FileZilla
Programming Editor / IDE: GNU Emacs
Easier (than Emacs) Programming Editor: Geany
Terminal / Console: rxvt-unicode (and) GNU Screen
Quicksilver Alternative: Gnome Do (or) Launchy
RSS Feed Reader: RSSOwl
File Manager: Midnight Commander
Outliner / Note-taking App: NoteCase
IRC Client: WeeChat&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All of these are very powerful apps. Take the time to learn them. You'll be rewarded.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well&#8230; After reading these comments, and feeling some pity.. err, compassion <img src='http://www.rubyrailways.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8212; Allow me to offer this as a Christmas gift&#8230; <img src='http://www.rubyrailways.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My recommended applications for those developers wishing to use Ubuntu (or some other Linux distribution):<br />
FTP Client: FileZilla<br />
Programming Editor / IDE: GNU Emacs<br />
Easier (than Emacs) Programming Editor: Geany<br />
Terminal / Console: rxvt-unicode (and) GNU Screen<br />
Quicksilver Alternative: Gnome Do (or) Launchy<br />
RSS Feed Reader: RSSOwl<br />
File Manager: Midnight Commander<br />
Outliner / Note-taking App: NoteCase<br />
IRC Client: WeeChat</p>
<p>All of these are very powerful apps. Take the time to learn them. You&#8217;ll be rewarded.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy L.</title>
		<link>http://www.rubyrailways.com/why-buying-a-mac-for-rails-developers-is-a-good-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-103483</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As for IDE / editor, I find GNU Emacs to be the best:
https://peepcode.com/products/meet-emacs&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For those interested in finding Linux alternatives to OS X apps:
http://linuxappfinder.com/alternatives
http://www.osalt.com/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And...
http://ubuntuforums.org/
For questions and answers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ultimately, I think it comes down to a matter of personal choice. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for IDE / editor, I find GNU Emacs to be the best:<br />
<a href="https://peepcode.com/products/meet-emacs" rel="nofollow">https://peepcode.com/products/meet-emacs</a></p>
<p>For those interested in finding Linux alternatives to OS X apps:<br />
<a href="http://linuxappfinder.com/alternatives" rel="nofollow">http://linuxappfinder.com/alternatives</a><br />
<a href="http://www.osalt.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.osalt.com/</a></p>
<p>And&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/" rel="nofollow">http://ubuntuforums.org/</a><br />
For questions and answers.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I think it comes down to a matter of personal choice. <img src='http://www.rubyrailways.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andy L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, but I prefer Ubuntu :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And, BTW, there are great Linux alternatives for all the apps you mention.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I prefer Ubuntu <img src='http://www.rubyrailways.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And, BTW, there are great Linux alternatives for all the apps you mention.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;code completion - hm sure, though command-T in textmate as well as some nice bundles can help a lot and so far I didn't feel an enormous need for this (I could still use NetBeans or something but it didn't even cross my mind since I got used to TM ;-) &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On a terminal I am using vim, but I am not really proficient with it and would never switch from TextMate  (btw wtf http://nubyonrails.com/articles/emacs-emacs)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Java vs Ruby - it's not for everyone. For some guys (no offense, but IMO mainly for the mediocre ones) it is more convenient to sit at some big Java shop as one of the x Java devels and code something. Nobody notices if you have no particular result in say a few weeks. In that timeframe in Ruby/Rails you could create a google competitor ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>code completion - hm sure, though command-T in textmate as well as some nice bundles can help a lot and so far I didn&#8217;t feel an enormous need for this (I could still use NetBeans or something but it didn&#8217;t even cross my mind since I got used to TM <img src='http://www.rubyrailways.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On a terminal I am using vim, but I am not really proficient with it and would never switch from TextMate  (btw wtf <a href="http://nubyonrails.com/articles/emacs-emacs" rel="nofollow">http://nubyonrails.com/articles/emacs-emacs</a>)</p>
<p>Java vs Ruby - it&#8217;s not for everyone. For some guys (no offense, but IMO mainly for the mediocre ones) it is more convenient to sit at some big Java shop as one of the x Java devels and code something. Nobody notices if you have no particular result in say a few weeks. In that timeframe in Ruby/Rails you could create a google competitor <img src='http://www.rubyrailways.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aleksey Gureiev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aleksey Gureiev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Peter:
Yeah, Jim's thread. People seem to become so... intolerant when their preferences are being (rightfully) discussed and questioned. ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The IDE topic is particularly interesting. Previously I followed every innovation in the IDE world and thought that it's the way to go -- IDE has to handle code completion (it's literally impossible to remember every method of every class), real-time code review and take other complex tasks off the shoulders of the programmer. Over time IDE's have become more complex and demanding to system resources (to the hilarious extent sometimes). They have simply because the languages they were intended for are far from natural and easy themselves. Instead of solving the root cause of the problem -- simplifying the language so that it doesn't stay in a way of a programmer -- people focused (and still do) on building complex tools to deal with the stress of programming on those language. What is fascinating about Ruby is that you don't need an IDE at all and I proved it to myself working in VI (comfortably) for quite some time. And that's a sign that something has finally been done right. So, the question you quoted should sound more like "You DO use IDE? Lol…" really. ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was also coming from the Java world (7+ years before the switch), but in my programming life used about 14 languages for projects of sizes from micro to huge. Ruby is the love of my life. It truly is. Many say that it feels like a rope long enough to hang yourself, so flexible it is, but if you have the coding discipline, value style and consistency, this flexibility is really a blessing!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hope I'm not violating any policy of the comment size. :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter:<br />
Yeah, Jim&#8217;s thread. People seem to become so&#8230; intolerant when their preferences are being (rightfully) discussed and questioned. <img src='http://www.rubyrailways.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The IDE topic is particularly interesting. Previously I followed every innovation in the IDE world and thought that it&#8217;s the way to go &#8212; IDE has to handle code completion (it&#8217;s literally impossible to remember every method of every class), real-time code review and take other complex tasks off the shoulders of the programmer. Over time IDE&#8217;s have become more complex and demanding to system resources (to the hilarious extent sometimes). They have simply because the languages they were intended for are far from natural and easy themselves. Instead of solving the root cause of the problem &#8212; simplifying the language so that it doesn&#8217;t stay in a way of a programmer &#8212; people focused (and still do) on building complex tools to deal with the stress of programming on those language. What is fascinating about Ruby is that you don&#8217;t need an IDE at all and I proved it to myself working in VI (comfortably) for quite some time. And that&#8217;s a sign that something has finally been done right. So, the question you quoted should sound more like &#8220;You DO use IDE? Lol…&#8221; really. <img src='http://www.rubyrailways.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was also coming from the Java world (7+ years before the switch), but in my programming life used about 14 languages for projects of sizes from micro to huge. Ruby is the love of my life. It truly is. Many say that it feels like a rope long enough to hang yourself, so flexible it is, but if you have the coding discipline, value style and consistency, this flexibility is really a blessing!</p>
<p>Hope I&#8217;m not violating any policy of the comment size. <img src='http://www.rubyrailways.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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